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aylunar schreef:
hellooo, ik kom van de duitse VP server and mijn nederlands is niet zo goed, maar ik heb een erg belangrijke vraag en ik hoop dat ik hier hulp kan krijgen. op woensdag is mijn mondeling tentamen in het nederlandse les and iedereen moet een korte presentatie van 3 minuten houden over een thema dat wij zelf kunnen kiezen. maar het zou in verband moeten staan met de boek "dagen van gras" dat wij hebben gelezen. ik zou graag willen weten of iemand van jullie het boek heeft gelezen en me kan vertellen waarom schaken belangrijk is voor Ben (hoofdpersoon) en het boek?

my dutch is getting really bad i don't know why but it bothers me so much, 50% of the text i wrote above is by me and 50% is from google translator because i just forgot every word and had to google it lol but yea i hope you can understand what i'm trying to say.
i really really hope some of you read the book and can help me out
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Acnolgia schreef:
omg i totally forgot about this book! I had to read it like 5 years ago, so i don't really remember...


i'm gonna look it up for u
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Ermena schreef:
I don't know the book, I'd really like to help you though.

Maybe you could search for Dutch websites with information about the book, because it's a Dutch book there will probably be more details about the storyline on Dutch sites than German sites. Try to translate those sites and mayble you'll find something!

Good luck!
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aylunar schreef:
thank you guys so much!! @Acnologia @Ermena 
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Acnolgia schreef:
ok, the internet says his grandpa learned him to play chess and ben has always looked up to him, maybe that's the only thing he remembers of his grandpa, which makes it so important to him?

i'm trying to remember as much as possible, can you give me examples of where the book mentions chess? 
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Demi schreef:
weet niet welk niveau je doet maar op de middelbare school gebruikte iedereen deze website:
www.scholieren.com/zoeken/dagen%20van%20het%20gras

misschien kun je het hier in vinden!
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Acnolgia schreef:
Demi schreef:
weet niet welk niveau je doet maar op de middelbare school gebruikte iedereen deze website:
www.scholieren.com/zoeken/dagen%20van%20het%20gras

misschien kun je het hier in vinden!
nee staat er niet in
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aylunar schreef:
Acnologia schreef:
ok, the internet says his grandpa learned him to play chess and ben has always looked up to him, maybe that's the only thing he remembers of his grandpa, which makes it so important to him?

i'm trying to remember as much as possible, can you give me examples of where the book mentions chess? 

yes thank you!

so, ben grew up mostly with his grandparents because he didn't have a good relationship with his mom. he learned almost everything from his grandfather i think and tom, his "friend" who's probably just an imagination (the book doesn't really say it), was also playing chess with ben's grandfather if i remember it correctly. tom was also the reason for ben's drug problems and when he got into rehab, he had to play chess again to exercise his brain. that's all i remember, gotta read the book again to see if there's more
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aylunar schreef:
oh and also: when i finish writing it down, would you guys mind if i post it here so you could kinda correct me if i wrote something wrong? i would have asked my teacher but she's not allowed to help because it's an exam 
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QueenCandy schreef:
aylunar schreef:
oh and also: when i finish writing it down, would you guys mind if i post it here so you could kinda correct me if i wrote something wrong? i would have asked my teacher but she's not allowed to help because it's an exam 

Sure thing!
I don't know the book so I don't think I'm able to help with that, but I can read the text when it's ready to check and correct it :)
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Demi schreef:
aylunar schreef:
oh and also: when i finish writing it down, would you guys mind if i post it here so you could kinda correct me if i wrote something wrong? i would have asked my teacher but she's not allowed to help because it's an exam 
No problem! (Well I can help with grammar, but not with the information on the book itself)
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Acnolgia schreef:
aylunar schreef:
Acnologia schreef:
ok, the internet says his grandpa learned him to play chess and ben has always looked up to him, maybe that's the only thing he remembers of his grandpa, which makes it so important to him?

i'm trying to remember as much as possible, can you give me examples of where the book mentions chess? 

yes thank you!

so, ben grew up mostly with his grandparents because he didn't have a good relationship with his mom. he learned almost everything from his grandfather i think and tom, his "friend" who's probably just an imagination (the book doesn't really say it), was also playing chess with ben's grandfather if i remember it correctly. tom was also the reason for ben's drug problems and when he got into rehab, he had to play chess again to exercise his brain. that's all i remember, gotta read the book again to see if there's more
yeah i remember my teacher saying Tom was imaginary but I never really understood that, there are a few hints in the book but Tom was potrayed as such a real character! Thinking of it, maybe that was the whole point. we believed he existed, just like Ben did.

maybe chess symbolizes distraction, escaping from the 'real world'? When he could play chess with is grandpa, he forgot all troubles with his mom etc. When he got older and stopped playing chess since he had no one to play it with, he distracted himself with drugs. Now that he's trying to get clean, he needs something else to distract himself from the situation that he's in and so starts playing chess again. idk, it's my theory. I remember we talked about in in class yet i don't remember the answer my teacher gave me.
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Acnolgia schreef:
Acnologia schreef:
aylunar schreef:
Acnologia schreef:
ok, the internet says his grandpa learned him to play chess and ben has always looked up to him, maybe that's the only thing he remembers of his grandpa, which makes it so important to him?

i'm trying to remember as much as possible, can you give me examples of where the book mentions chess? 

yes thank you!

so, ben grew up mostly with his grandparents because he didn't have a good relationship with his mom. he learned almost everything from his grandfather i think and tom, his "friend" who's probably just an imagination (the book doesn't really say it), was also playing chess with ben's grandfather if i remember it correctly. tom was also the reason for ben's drug problems and when he got into rehab, he had to play chess again to exercise his brain. that's all i remember, gotta read the book again to see if there's more
yeah i remember my teacher saying Tom was imaginary but I never really understood that, there are a few hints in the book but Tom was potrayed as such a real character! Thinking of it, maybe that was the whole point. we believed he existed, just like Ben did.

maybe chess symbolizes distraction, escaping from the 'real world'? When he could play chess with is grandpa, he forgot all troubles with his mom etc. When he got older and stopped playing chess since he had no one to play it with, he distracted himself with drugs. Now that he's trying to get clean, he needs something else to distract himself from the situation that he's in and so starts playing chess again. idk, it's my theory. I remember we talked about in in class yet i don't remember the answer my teacher gave me.
i think it's important you have a good theory in mind, it does not necessarily have to be true
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Datum: 13-01-2020 15:19
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Acnolgia schreef:
Acnologia schreef:
aylunar schreef:
Acnologia schreef:
ok, the internet says his grandpa learned him to play chess and ben has always looked up to him, maybe that's the only thing he remembers of his grandpa, which makes it so important to him?

i'm trying to remember as much as possible, can you give me examples of where the book mentions chess? 

yes thank you!

so, ben grew up mostly with his grandparents because he didn't have a good relationship with his mom. he learned almost everything from his grandfather i think and tom, his "friend" who's probably just an imagination (the book doesn't really say it), was also playing chess with ben's grandfather if i remember it correctly. tom was also the reason for ben's drug problems and when he got into rehab, he had to play chess again to exercise his brain. that's all i remember, gotta read the book again to see if there's more
yeah i remember my teacher saying Tom was imaginary but I never really understood that, there are a few hints in the book but Tom was potrayed as such a real character! Thinking of it, maybe that was the whole point. we believed he existed, just like Ben did.

maybe chess symbolizes distraction, escaping from the 'real world'? When he could play chess with is grandpa, he forgot all troubles with his mom etc. When he got older and stopped playing chess since he had no one to play it with, he distracted himself with drugs. Now that he's trying to get clean, he needs something else to distract himself from the situation that he's in and so starts playing chess again. idk, it's my theory. I remember we talked about in in class yet i don't remember the answer my teacher gave me.
so:
Schaken is voor hem een afleiding van de echte wereld.
Hij speelde het altijd met zijn opa, maar in zijn tienerjaren had hij niemand om mee te spelen.
Hierdoor had hij een nieuwe afleiding nodig, deze afleiding werd drugs.
Nu hij clean is zoekt hij naar een ander middel om zich af te leiden van het feit dat hij in de verslavingskliniek zit -> hij begint weer met schaken
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Acnolgia schreef:
chess is like a different kind of drug to him, he is depressed and does not only needs help with his addiction
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aylunar schreef:
thank you!! @QueenCandy @Demi 

and thank you @Acnologia and i think you're right, the theory definitely doesn't have to be true. but maybe what you said is just the same as the teachers were thinking, that would be nice. but even if it's not, it doesn't matter. and thank you so so much for translating it, you didn't have to do it, that's so nice of you  maybe i can find even more information so i can really talk for 3 minutes straight 
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